A simple ball peen hammer and screw driver are can also be used to break the check nu. How to replace your drive rudder shaft stuffing box packing with gfo skipper emarine. Don henderson on kindred spirits fixed up this handy rig to hold a garmin 45 gps, and computer and paperwork. I now have a leak that comes from under the flange that attaches it to the wooden box. Edsons rudder post stuffing box combines a rudder post bearing with an abovethewaterline stuffing box for.
How to replace your drive rudder shaft stuffing box. If your boat has inboard power, odds are it is fitted with a stuffing box to provide a watertight seal for the propeller shaft. I did read that dropping the rudder would allow the stuffing box the be removed with removal of the old stuffing made easier. Hopefully viper will chime in on this, there are multiple types of packing out there, i believe there is a pte type now.
Ive been trying to find a new one, but cant find one the same size. The solution was to cut the top layer of the 12 flax packing in. Marine and boat pyi pss shaft seal in canada binnacle. Ignore the small electrical terminal visible at times in the bottom left of the video. However, it started leaking a year later, on the first day of the summer cruise. I took the rudder stuffing box out of my new 1991 brendella ski boat. You are getting water in the bilge and you track it down to the propeller shafts stuffing box also called stern gland. This 214 tool was initially released for a customers rudder stuffing box made by. The top nut is the packing nut and the lower nut is just a jamb nut. Hello, hoping to get some help regarding repacking the stuffing box on my newtome 85 oday 28. We recommend fiberglassing the stuffing box bearing to the top of the tubing when the rudderpost is in place.
Typically there is always a wrinkle to a job like this, in this case it was the removal of the rudder gotta dig a deep hole to get the darned thing out. Stuffing boxes are also used to seal rudder stocks that penetrate the hull below the waterline. Remove old packing and make sure you get the same size i have listed packing. It would be interesting to hear about your maintenance routines concerning the rudder shaft stuffing box. This can be done easily using alternating layers of fiberglass mat and cloth. I found that the base is broken from the tube the rudder goes through that has the packing in it. A stuffing box failure is nearly always a catastrophic event and therefore worth avoiding at nearly any cost. Our sa series self aligning shaft seals offer exceptional durability and performance and are less likely to experience catastrophic failure compared to dripless shaft seals, mechanical shaft seals, and liptype shaft seals issues with dripless shaft seals. If a rudder stuffing box is packed correctly it should last for decades with occasional tightenings. As sailcarole points out, underway, the water is coming out below the stuffing box, not from the stuffing box. Most stuffing boxes have an adjusting nut which compresses the packing material, controlling the. Rudder port stuffing box angled 1 14 shaft square flange bronze 4 bolt packing. I personally think the conventional stuffing box is less maintenance. I assume you know the shaft has to be in there to pack the stuffing box.
The stuffing box houses a seal which the prop shaft passes through. Rudder stuffing box 350 mariner carver owners forum. I was planning on going with a conventional stuffing box, and getting rid of the dripless. Best stuffing box shaft gland maintenance gear and tips for sailboats and boats. I had the stuffing box removed to have threaded bolts replaced. Stuffing box maintenance you are getting water in the bilge and you track it down to the propeller shafts stuffing box also called stern gland. The stuffing box houses a seal which the prop shaft. I did make a tool out of heavy gauge wire to remove the old stuffing. Im not sure how old it is, since it came with the boat. Five questions for ken read, president of north sails group.
Here is the post that many of you have been waiting for, the one that describes the repair to our rudders stuffing box. I took out the stuffing box and there is no casket or anything between the stuffing box and the fiberglass tube that it sits in. Flax packing is used for shaft packing, and for leaky stuffing boxes. The gps will pick up signals down below, though more slowly than when on deck. The stuffing box is located in the locker just abaft the wheel. Edsons stuffing boxes combines a rudderpost bearing with an. The following video shows how to change packing material on a rudder shaft. In the above cut away image the flange and pre drilled. Hello, i am doing some repairs prior to launching this spring and wanted to repack my starboard rudder stuffing box that developed a leak this past season. Best stuffing box shaft gland maintenance gear and tips for. Bavaria yacht rudder bearing and anode change on a 37 ft. Tuning the shaft packing in restricted areas is now easy. I pluged the trudder pedals in the little orange box where its written pedals. Being stuck in the house for several rainy days, the captain takes on packing the stuffing box and shoes you how to do it the easy way while still in the water.
Make sure this fits by entering your model number 312 shaft packing wrench for rudder stuffing box packing gland inboard boat stuffing box wrench leaking packing nut wrench, 312 stub wrench. Water must be discharged into the stuffing box, further lubricating the aqua lube bearing insert. Buck algonquin very similar in shape and size to our 178 shaft packing. View topic rudder shaft stuffing box hallbergrassy 29 owners.
In principle a stuffing box is identical to the packing nut on a common faucet. Choosing the best rudder port or rudder stuffing box for your boat can be a daunting task, especially if youre doing the work yourself diy. The old stuffing was very compact and removing it took almost 2 hours. This will cause the rudder lifting bushes to jam or fall out during sailing. Looking at the corrosion markings on the rudder stock, i would guess that the average waterline hencefreeboard before leakage inside the hose was probably a good 810 below the top bearing and hose connection. The binnacle stocks a number of popular pss shaft seal sizes, and can special order whatever shaft diameter and stuffing box combination you require. So when the wave is formed, if the stuffing box is leaking a little, water will flow into the bilge. Im trying to repack and no matter what i do i cannot seem to get the lock nut loosened. Shaft and rudder stuffing boxes c company profile mechanical electrical hardware contact us home. Series 1510 pump stuffing box construction exploded view factory recommended spare parts see page 6 for exploded view of 8g pump parts list cp206,pl series 1510 stuffing box design note. Rudder stuffing box 350 mariner page 2 carver owners. How to replace your drive rudder shaft stuffing box packing. The hole through which the propeller or rudder shaft passes, the shaft log, is necessarily large, often three inches or more in diameter, making it a potentially large avenue for water flow in the event of such a failure. Im attempting from the port lazarette if thats helpful.
Does not come with packing please order packing separately boats 93 and older. Get gfo packing material this video will guide you step by step on replacing the old stuffing packing box with. Only got two loops on my rudder shaft and was worried. Hi guys my sailboat 1979 comes with a traditional stuffing box with the box itself screwed on the shaft log and bolted to the hull. Stuffing boxes and shaft log hose double seal type stuffing box cast bronze our stuffing box uses double neoprene seals. Our gland style rudder ports are designed with the goals of safety and performance to give you the confidence and peace of mind you deserve. Right now its on the hard and will be splashing in a week or two so will be easy to change. Based on the responses here and my shopping choices together with cost i made the decision to use lithium grease for the stuffing tube for the shaft of my hellen.
Bearing lockwasher, bearing locknut and coupler end bearing cap not shown used on extra large bearing assembly only. Stuffing box, how often should it be changed sailboat. I have tried a huge channellock like pliar and a chain wrench, but i cant seem to get a good angle on it. This year was the year to replace the shaft tube connecting the stern tube to the stuffing box. Iv pedals, i used this topic to find out what i had to download because the configuration tool i downloaded from the mk. Stuffing boxes are typically bolted to the flange that is on the inboard end of the stern tube. Maintain this gland around the prop shaft to keep leaks at bay. Our solid cast bronze stuffing box series offers a notched packing nut and check nut. Weve looked at the stuffing box itself, and there is a 3 dia.
The rudder post is at the stern and the stuffing box which keeps water out of the boat is barely above water line. Stuffing box with automatic alignment and water cooled. Rudder shaft thickness and mounting how easy to service remove rudder, change propeller, change zink anodes tillerwheel steering linkage type alignment aperture for propeller large enough easy to change propeller rudder post ruggedness rudder post stuffing box. The best marine shaft seals dont have to be the most complicated to inspect, maintain, or repair. My plans show a home made aluminum materials and packing rudder stuffing box. This is not enough clearance to allow the nut threads to engage the stuffing box threads, as there is a rubber seal hugging the rudder shaft in the stuffing box that stands about 18 proud of the lip. How to remove and replace packing in a rudder duration.
We recommend fiberglassing the stuffing boxbearing to the top of the tubing when the rudder post is in place. Were heading into our fourth season on our boat, with the engine at 400 hours, is it time to change the stuffing box or how often should it be changed. Marine propeller or rudder stuffing box model 1786 water grease lubrication with emergency air seal. Spartan stuffing box wrenches are custom fitted to our stuffing boxes. Roughing in engine placement, shaft and strut locations, etc. I see that nowdays most of the stuffing boxes are clamped to a hose that is then clamped to the shaft log.
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